[转帖]为什么你选择 ubuntu 而不是 windows ?

关于Ubuntu的故事或对Ubuntu的感慨及心情
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这篇东西没意思,不感兴趣
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linux狂热分子的话,缺乏公平公正的态度
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我更喜欢读原帖
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的确能找到相同的感触,甚至启发
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如果你认为,这个贴有点意义
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翻的太烂,影响到我阅读
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#136

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 18:27

136#mdsmedia
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The way I look at it is Microsoft is a monopoly. They try to control everything. Now what I mean by that is when you look around the world what types of new technology is operated by a MS program? When I drove a semi, my 2005 Freightliner Classic's computer had Microsoft Windows in it. That is just one point right there, but with Ubuntu you don't have to buy a brand new computer every 3 months to keep up with the new script in the OS. Ubuntu is 100 times faster than Windows is, and Windows will never have the security that Linux in general has. You read in the newspaper or hear on the news all the time about viruses that attack computers to destroy data, and sadly all of those computers are operated by Windows. Plus I like the ability to tweak the OS and change things to how I want them, or completely re-write the kernal and make my own version of Linux.

Not to mention, or should I say "not forgetting", that most of the spam that hits your mailbox every day is spawned by insecure Windows computers.

更不用提,或者我应该说“不要忘记”每天袭击你邮箱的大部分垃圾邮件是那些不安全的 windows 电脑发出的

Windows fans (I didn't say fanbois) usually forget that it's not the technically competant Windows user who creates these problems, it's the other 99% of Windows users and their machines.

windows fans ( 我没有说死忠 ) 通常忘了,弄出这些问题的 windows 用户,不是技术的较量, 是其他99%的 windows 用户和他们的机子

Put a technically incompetant person in front of an Ubuntu (or any Linux) machine and you're FAR less likely (not impossible) to have it used as a zombie.
放一个技术不过关的人在 ubuntu 前 (或者其他linux)机器,多少会用的像一个僵尸(不是不可能)

fanbois (拥踅,死忠) ,我学了一个词


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#137

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 19:10

137#money2themax
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Not to mention, or should I say "not forgetting", that most of the spam that hits your mailbox every day is spawned by insecure Windows computers.

Windows fans (I didn't say fanbois) usually forget that it's not the technically competant Windows user who creates these problems, it's the other 99% of Windows users and their machines.

Put a technically incompetant person in front of an Ubuntu (or any Linux) machine and you're FAR less likely (not impossible) to have it used as a zombie.

Don't forget Chain Letter/ E-mails god those get annoying fast
别忘了连锁信/邮件 , 上帝,这些东西更烦人

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Chain letters
Chain letters are illegal. Chain letters are a waste of time. Net sites which do not discourage electronic chain letters risk losing their net connections, as they have the potential for wasting great amounts of bandwidth and disk space.

What are chain letters?
Chain letters are letters which promise a phenomenal return on a small effort. The simplest form of a chain letter contains a list of x people. You are supposed to send something to the top person on the list. Then you remove the top person on the list, sliding the second person into the top position, add yourself in the bottom position, make y copies of the letter, and mail them to your friends. The promise is that you will eventually receive y**x somethings in return.

连锁信就是承诺一个惊人的回报,而只要很少的付出,最简单形式的连锁信包含 xxx 人名的一个列表, 你必须发东西(邮件) 给顶部的人,然后移掉列表顶部的人,把第二个人挪到顶部,你自己在最后一个位置 ,copy 这封 信发给你朋友,承诺是你最后能得到 y**x 的回报
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#138

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 19:13

138#mdsmedia
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Don't forget Chain Letter/ E-mails god those get annoying fast
And the HOAX virus emails that keep being dredged up after 5-6 years.
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#139

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 19:23

139#jfank
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See when i first started using Ubuntu I was of course questionable on the operating system, but it was also a brand new OS system to me, and I had to learn how to use it. Now that I've made the switch I can honestly see just how worthless Windows actually is. People may make viruses on a linux OS, but they might also have a windows operated system in the background to use as a testing target to see if the virus actually works, then it is spread over the world. I doubt viruses will ever be able to be made to crash a Linux based machine, because of the security behind Linux, and that it does change everyday.

当我第一次用 ubuntu 的时候,我当然有很多问题关于这个操作系统,它对我来说是个全新的操作系统, 我不得不学习怎么去用它, 现在我已经完成转变,并且真正能看到 windows 是多么不实用( worthless 没有价值 ), 人们也可能在linux 上制造病毒 , 他们可能还有个 windows 系统运行在后台,用来检查病毒是不是真的能工作,然后才满世界传播,我怀疑病毒是不是能让 linux 机器崩溃,因为linux 的安全性,而且每天都在变化
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#140

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 19:28

140#phillywize
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Maybe it's been said already, but exploiting compromised windows machines is kind of a big business these days. There's money in it because windows is ubiquitous and vulnerable. I wonder if there were as much moolah to be had in compromising linux systems, whether the purveyors of spam would have found some exploits. But for the potential profit to be there, my guess is linux would have to be more way more widespread than it is.

Anyhow, as to the general thread topic, I run Ubuntu because I got a new computer to replace my old dual booted machine, and never got around to installing windows...kept planning to do it, and then one day realized that with virtualization as mature as it is, I just didn't need to have a native windows install. So now I just run linux and have a virtual windows machine for that killer app of killer apps, itunes (ok, I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth already. But the FOSS universe hasn't beaten itunes yet, imho).
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#141

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 19:36

141#money2themax
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meh armaroK and if i want movies or music i go to a move store like Suncoast or a music store like F.Y.E.
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#142

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 19:37

142#staticvoid
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because Its just too cool.
i guess you have to use it to believe it
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#143

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 19:37

143#cmat
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It does everything Windows can do without being Windows. I guess not games but really that's an low priority for me. I would like to see AutoCAD on linux in the near future though.

她能做所有 windows 能做的事情而不需要windows . 我想没有游戏确实对我来说并不太在意,我希望linux 在不久的将来能看到 AutoCAD
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#144

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 20:52

144#Peyton
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Actually, I'd rather say that ubuntu is what you make out of it. It can be tweaked to a exteme measure as linux is known to be, or it can be out-of-the-box inuitive.

Right on.
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#145

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-03 21:12

145#phillywize
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Re the great Linux vs. Windows debate, where we all get to be trolls...I propose that linux is morally superior to windows -- FOSS has more highmindedness to it, and it really gives power to the people (or at least those who use it). Windows is way more, I don't know, bourgeois. That said, most of us in the bourgeoisie who would criticize bourgieness are hypocrites for doing so.

回复 "伟大的 linux vs. windows 论战,我们都是巨魔" .... 我想 linux 在道德(层面)上要高于 windows --- FOSS ( 自由、开源软件 ) 有更高的道德尺度, 它的确给予人们力量(或者说至少对于用它的人),而 windows 某种意义上说,我不知道,就像 , 资本的 . 可是,我们大多数身处中产阶级的人,却批评资本主义,那是伪善的行为!

:em50 :em50

I think windows is, for the average home user, technically superior to linux because it's more likely to work out of the box, and easily provide the functionality people want.* I wouldn't try to install it on my parents' machine; they'd flip. Linux offers more, but needs more in terms of technical knowledge to really make it sing. I love my Ubuntu setup, but have had to do more than a little text editor/command line hacking to make it go. Never had to do that with XP. Not a knock to linux, but to my mind, it says a lot about the two worlds.

我认为 windows 对于一般的家庭用户,在技术上是优于Linux的 , 它更像是装好就能用, 更容易的提供人们想要的功能,. 我不会尝试给我的父母的机子装( ubuntu ) ; 他们会跳脚, linux 提供更多功能,但是需要更多的学习来让他能够工作. 我喜欢我的ubuntu 设置,但不得不做一些超过 小小的 txt 编辑器/命令行的工作才能让他运行, xp 不需要做那些事, 但是在我看来,它说了很多关于这两个世界( lin/win)
:em52

For power users, admins, etc., it's a question of need and preference. Obviously linux and FOSS generally are serious players offering real advantages.

对于 power 用户,比如管理员, 需要和偏好是个问题, 显然 linux 和 开源软件 通常对于 "真正的玩家" 提供真正的好处 .

:em50
*Admitted: Windows also supplies lots of functionality many people don't want. E.g., all the crippleware, adware, and garbage that usually comes with an OEM windows install. I think the biggest piece of cr*p out there is MS Works. Phew. What an awful package. Can't understand why that monstrosity still exists...

同意: windows 的确有不少许多人并不想要的功能,比如,所有的 crippleware( 功能弱 ), 广告 , 和一般伴随 OEM windows 一起的垃圾 ... 我想最大的一块是 MS Works , 哦. 多可怕的一个软件包, 实在不明白为什么这样的怪物依然存在...
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#146

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-04 13:14

146#Spirotot
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Haha, my reason is kinda funny.

My Dad installed a demo of some parental controls on my computer (he was planning on buying the full version of the program, later). The program was working fine, but I had installed Ubuntu on a partition on my laptop, to get around the parental controls completely (I didn't like him logging/being able to read my IM convos! Plus, it had a keylogger, so he could pretty much get all my passwords...). But I still HAD to do some stuff on Vista (the original OS), like using Microsoft Access, etc. (Yes, I know that OpenOffice does all the same stuff MS Access does, but it doesn't do it as easily. Plus, it was for a test, and I didn't have time to figure out how OpenOffice works.) But, as it turns out, the parental controls had an "internal error" (hehe, don't know how that happened. I didn't delete any important files... ), and it wouldn't let me on the Internet at all. So, I asked my Dad to uninstall the program, but he couldn't, because he forgot his password. (Convenient, eh?). It's been more than a week, and he still hasn't called the company to retrieve his password, so I've been on Ubuntu since. And, although I don't like it quite as much as Vista, I do have to say that it's VERY close. One of the biggest reasons is that it's much, much faster than Vista. I have a mid-range laptop, and Vista was somewhat slow on it, but Ubuntu is very fast on it. The biggest disklike that I have is that alot of Microsoft games/programs don't run on in (even in WINE), but it's tolerable, and probably fixable, in the future.

Edit: Also, I had a heck of a time getting sound to work with Ubuntu, and it still doesn't work 100% (the regular speakers don't cut out when I plug in headphones...), but I'm sure it's fixable. I just haven't taken the time to figure out how.

haha , 我的理由有点好笑,
我老爸在我机子上装了某种家长控制软件演示版, (后来他打算买个完整版的) , 那个程序工作的不错,但是我在笔记本另一个分区装了个 ubuntu ,...

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#147

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-04 13:21

147#argie
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Why? Funny you ask.

1. I don't have to worry where my programs are installed.
2. I don't have to worry about where my settings are kept.
3. Things just work.
4. Keeping up to date is extremely simple.
5. Installing programs is extremely simple.
6. I get multiple workspaces by default.
7. The shell is easy to access.

The terminal is so important to me now, I can't believe I once lived without it. I'm just a normal user, no linux expert, but damn, nothing beats the console for usability once you cross the initial learning hurdle.

为什么? 你问的有趣

1. 我不再担心我的程序装到哪了
2. 我不再担心哪里保存我的设置
3. 一切正常
4. 保持更新如此简单
5.安装软件如此简单
6.有多个工作区
7.shell 环境好用

现在终端对我太重要了,不能想想像有一天没有它,我只是个普通用户,不是linux 专家,但是,damn,什么也比不过控制台实用,一旦你越过了最初的学习障碍
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#148

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-04 14:25

148# money2themax
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ple.
5. Installing programs is extremely simple.

I don't know about that if you have to install something through terminal installing programs can be a chore
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#149

帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-04 14:26

149#fatality_uk
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Because it just works
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帖子 iblicf » 2008-01-04 14:26

150#AgentZ86
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Because it just works
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I like this answer too, but here is more of my reasons
我也喜欢这个回答,不过我还有更多原因

It works, I like it, it's free, I'm free from software bondage, and it feels like I'm sticking it to the man when I use Linux LOL
它很好的运行,我喜欢它,自由,不再被软件奴役,感觉就像被man(man手册)吸住了,当我用linux的时候, LOL

Ha, Ha, Ha Up yours MS

Anyhow I also like the fact that when making donations to a linux OS development that I've actually paid for something I wanted and not because I was forced to pay for it.
And it feels much better that way.
不管怎么说,我还是喜欢当你给 linux os 的开发做贡献的时候,我真的支付了我需要的东西,不是因为我被迫支付它

Not to mention that when I'm forced to pay for something that does not really work well, and then I'm forced to purchase other things to make it work well. Like Virus Protection, and popup blockers, and spam blockers, and mal-ware blocker and orphan file cleaners and registry cleaners, and AHHHHHHH It's a paradox !!!!!! Where do I get off of this merry go round.


Well I get off on linux LOL
Once again Up your MS

Well anyhow thats my 2 cents on things.

Thanks for reading.

P.S don't get me wrong I don't like MS but I do like Bill Gates, he's very smart and a great business man. He also makes big donations to worthy causes. I don't believe he totally controls all the negative things about MS that most of us don't like just fyi on that.

不要误解,我不喜欢微软,但是我的确喜欢盖茨,他很聪明而且是个伟大的商人,他也资助了很多有价值的东西,我不认为它完全操纵所有的负面事情 ...
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