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感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 18:56
dnpcn
首先声明,不是为了挑起国家和地区的争论。要拍板砖,无理谩骂的兄弟,请无视此帖,本人只是陈述一个事实。
台湾人在科技,IT业方面强过大陆是不争的事实。比如华硕之于联想,多普达之于山寨手机等,还有很多大型公司的高层领导在大中华区的办事机构也是台湾人(李开复等), 就连咱们喜欢的ubuntu也是先在台湾有办事处之后,再来大陆成立公司的吧。
并且台湾人编写了一些比较好用的开源软件,像lazybuntu, clonezilla等,听说台湾小学信息课程,采用的是ubuntu教材。反观我们大陆,就有些乏善可陈了。。。

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 19:13
ohchuizi
同感!
就是大学,有几所大学看重linux?看重开源事业呢?
不知道是什么原因?

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 19:21
photor
其实是你没有看到开源世界里有很多牛人是大陆的,比如说编grub的那位 :em09

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 19:33
小普林斯
中国政府只知道支持微软,连农民都想喊了去花几千去装个正版Windows,没有政府和教育的支持不可能有台湾做得好…… :em20

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 19:44
ohchuizi
photor 写了:其实是你没有看到开源世界里有很多牛人是大陆的,比如说编grub的那位 :em09
grub文档中的文件:AUHORS+THANKS.gz

AUTHORS:
VaX#n8 (real name unknown) wrote shared_src/fsys_ext2fs.c.

Heiko Schroeder rewrote shared_src/stage1.S to be more readable.

The following authors assigned copyright on their work to the Free
Software Foundation:

Erich Stefan Boleyn originally designed and implemented GRUB.

Gordon Matzigkeit adopted GRUB into the GNU Project. He fixed several
bugs, added symbolic link support to shared_src/fsys_ext2fs.c, and
began the implementation of /sbin/grub. He was an official maintainer.

Yoshinori K. Okuji contributed many bugfixes and new features, such as
working LBA support, /sbin/grub support for configuration files, the
script /sbin/grub-install, the utility /bin/mbchk, the new engine for
builtin commands, disk swapping support, keyboard configuration support,
network support, online help support, command-line history support,
hidden menu support, the new Linux loader, serial terminal support,
single-line editing support, the utility /sbin/grub-md5-crypt, the new
GRUB manual, and several new commands. He is the current official
maintainer.

Peter Astrand added support for a color menu.

Pavel Roskin contributed many bugfixes and new features, such as FreeBSD
support for the grub shell, and configure process cleanups.

Klaus Reichl wrote stage2/fsys_minix.c.

Per Lundberg added graphics support to the Multiboot Specification.

Jochen Hoenicke rewrote stage2/fsys_fat.c and wrote
stage2/fsys_reiserfs.c and stage2/md5.c.

Christoph Plattner added support for Net Boot Image Proposal.

Frank Mehnert added support for hercules console.

Kristoffer Branemyr added VSTa filesystem support.

Serguei Tzukanov added JFS and XFS support.

Jason Thomas added Linux DAC960 support and support for hiding/unhiding
logical partitions, and did a significant bugfix for the terminal stuff.

Tilmann Bubeck added support for vt100-incompatible terminals.

KB Sriram added a better detection of FAT filesystem and fixed a
network device completion.

Eric Kvaalen fixed a lot of problems in the GRUB manual.

Leonid Lisovskiy added El Torito support.


THANKS.gz
The following people made especially gracious contributions of their
time and energy in helping to track down bugs, add new features, and
generally assist in the GRUB maintainership process:

Adam Lackorzynski <[email protected]>
Adrian Phillips <[email protected]>
Alban Crequy <[email protected]>
Alessandro Rubini <[email protected]>
Alexander K. Hudek <[email protected]>
Alexander Langer <[email protected]>
Alfred M. Szmidt <[email protected]>
Andrew Clausen <[email protected]>
Andrew Walrond <[email protected]>
Ben Liblit <[email protected]>
Bernhard Treutwein <[email protected]>
Bodo Rueskamp <[email protected]>.
Boji Tony Kannanthanam <[email protected]>
Bradford Hovinen <[email protected]>
Brian Brunswick <[email protected]>
Bryan Ford <[email protected]>
Cedric Ware <[email protected]>
Chip Salzenberg <[email protected]>
Christian Jones <[email protected]>
Christoph Plattner <[email protected]>
Damian Ivereigh <[email protected]>
David Weinehall <[email protected]>
Dan J. Walters <[email protected]>
Daniel Farrell <[email protected]>
Daniel Pittman <[email protected]>
Daniel Wagner <[email protected]>
Danilo Godec <[email protected]>
Dennis Kitzman <[email protected]>
Derrik Pates <[email protected]>
Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS <[email protected]>
Eduard Guzovsky <[email protected]>
Edward Killips <[email protected]>
Egmont Koblinger <[email protected]>
Eric Hanchrow <[email protected]>
Erik Schoenfelder <[email protected]>
Eugene Doudine <[email protected]>
Florian Hatat <[email protected]>
Frank Mehnert <[email protected]>
Gary Poppitz <[email protected]>
Goran Koruga <[email protected]>
Hal Snyder <[email protected]>
HASEGAWA Tomoki <[email protected]>
Heikki Vatiainen <[email protected]>
Heiko Schroeder <[email protected]>
Henrik Nordstrom <[email protected]>
Herbert Nachtnebel <[email protected]>
Hidetoshi Nishimaki <[email protected]>
Hisazumi Kenji <[email protected]>
HORIKAWA Kazunori <[email protected]>
Ilguiz Latypov <[email protected]>
Jan Fricke <[email protected]>
Jan Zerebecki <[email protected]>
Jason Thomas <[email protected]>
Jean-Jacques Michel <[email protected]>
Jeremy Katz <[email protected]>
Jochen Hoenicke <[email protected]>
Johannes Kroeger <[email protected]>
John Goerzen <[email protected]>
John Tobey <[email protected]>
Josip Rodin <[email protected]>
Julien Bordet <[email protected]>
Julien Perrot <[email protected]>
Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <[email protected]>
Karsten Scheibler <[email protected]>
KB Sriram <[email protected]>
Khimenko Victor <[email protected]>
Klaus Reichl <[email protected]>
Kristoffer Branemyr <[email protected]>
Kunihiro Ishiguro <[email protected]>
Leendert Meyer <[email protected]>
Leonid Lisovskiy <[email protected]>
M. Meiarashi <[email protected]>
Mark Kettenis <[email protected]>
Mark Lundeberg <[email protected]>
Matt Perry <[email protected]>
Matt Yourst <[email protected]>
Matthias Granberry <[email protected]>
Matthias Kretschmer <[email protected]>
Michael Hohmuth <[email protected]>
Michael Sullivan <[email protected]>
Mike Meyer <[email protected]>
Miles Bader <[email protected]>
NATORI Shin <[email protected]>
Neal H Walfield <[email protected]>
Neelkanth Natu <[email protected]>
OKUJI Yoshinori <[email protected]>
Pavel Roskin <[email protected]>
Per Lundberg <[email protected]>
Peter Astrand <[email protected]>
Ralf Medow <[email protected]>
Ramon van Handel <[email protected]>
Robert Millan <[email protected]>
Roderich Schupp <[email protected]>
Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. <[email protected]>
Sergey Matveychuk <[email protected]>
Serguei Tzukanov <[email protected]>
Stefan Ondrejicka <[email protected]>
Stephen Early <[email protected]>
Steven Dick <[email protected]>
Sven Wegener <[email protected]>
Takehiro Suzuki <[email protected]>
Taketo Kabe <[email protected]>
Thierry DELHAISE <[email protected]>
Thierry Laronde <[email protected]>
Thomas Schweikle <[email protected]>
Thomas Schwinge <[email protected]>
Tilmann Bubeck <[email protected]>
Timothy Baldwin <[email protected]>
Torsten Duwe <[email protected]>
Uwe Dannowski <[email protected]>
VaX#n8 <[email protected]>
Vesa Jaaskelainen <[email protected]>
Yedidyah Bar-David <[email protected]>
Yury V. Umanets <[email protected]>
Yuri Zaporogets <[email protected]>
Vitaly Fertman <[email protected]>

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 19:47
mymathersname
photor 写了:其实是你没有看到开源世界里有很多牛人是大陆的,比如说编grub的那位 :em09
是的,不过,服务器方面是有些不太好……

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 19:56
lerosua
华华说的,与其诅咒黑暗,不如点亮一根焟烛

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 19:58
hp
总体看来,华人在开源事业中的贡献偏低,尤其是联系到华人人数占全世界总人口的五分之一多时, :em03

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 20:05
dnpcn
photor 写了:其实是你没有看到开源世界里有很多牛人是大陆的,比如说编grub的那位 :em09
grub的作者是大陆人吗?我刚查了下说最先由Erich Stefan Boleyn设计和实现的。这应该是个外国佬的名字呀,呵呵
GRand Unified Bootloader, which was originally designed and implemented by Erich Stefan Boleyn.
见http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
换名话说,也可能这确实是个大陆人,但是根据他的名字,他个人网站英语的地道程度,也绝对是留过学,或在国外生活过较长时间的,也就是说,他的那么多成就未必就与他的大陆人身份有关,或者说他本人,生在发达国家-比如美国-成就会更大(尽管作为国人,我很不愿意承认这一点)。
其实,很多外籍华人,并不以自己是华人而骄傲,像钱学森的侄子,钱永健,好象是,我记不清了,就是拿过化学诺贝尔奖的那位,就对记者直言,自己不是中国人,而是美国人。
想到这,我觉得这可能说明,我们这一方水土,可能真不适合那些牛人吧,只适合像我 一样的庸人,随大流,无个性,也就没有创造性。。。很无奈的承认这一点。希望以后会越来越好。。。。

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 20:34
谁是谁的谁
不宜妄自菲薄。只争朝夕!~~

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 20:46
hubert_star
dnpcn 写了:
photor 写了:其实是你没有看到开源世界里有很多牛人是大陆的,比如说编grub的那位 :em09
grub的作者是大陆人吗?我刚查了下说最先由Erich Stefan Boleyn设计和实现的。这应该是个外国佬的名字呀,呵呵
GRand Unified Bootloader, which was originally designed and implemented by Erich Stefan Boleyn.
见http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
换名话说,也可能这确实是个大陆人,但是根据他的名字,他个人网站英语的地道程度,也绝对是留过学,或在国外生活过较长时间的,也就是说,他的那么多成就未必就与他的大陆人身份有关,或者说他本人,生在发达国家-比如美国-成就会更大(尽管作为国人,我很不愿意承认这一点)。
其实,很多外籍华人,并不以自己是华人而骄傲,像钱学森的侄子,钱永健,好象是,我记不清了,就是拿过化学诺贝尔奖的那位,就对记者直言,自己不是中国人,而是美国人。
想到这,我觉得这可能说明,我们这一方水土,可能真不适合那些牛人吧,只适合像我 一样的庸人,随大流,无个性,也就没有创造性。。。很无奈的承认这一点。希望以后会越来越好。。。。
他们搞错了,不是大陆的。

grub是gnu的

而他们说的大陆的是grub4dos,是从grub fork出代码然后增加了一些特性。

不过ibus是大陆的。

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 20:47
32idea
和欧美比起来,大哥莫说二哥

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 21:02
greco
其实这个没啥好比的,环境不同而已
再翻过来说,大陆未必比台差,写开源的人大有人在,
只是你不知道而已

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 21:05
ptpt52
同感 :em06

Re: 感觉在对开源事业的贡献上,大陆不如台湾

发表于 : 2009-04-26 21:25
dnpcn
lerosua 写了:华华说的,与其诅咒黑暗,不如点亮一根焟烛
谁是谁的谁 写了:不宜妄自菲薄。只争朝夕!~~
:em11 :em11 :em11 :em11 :em11 :em11 :em11 :em11