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First because it's much much faster, doesn't "eat" all the cpu time... Second because it's collaborative, when I have a problem (or a solution) I can have the solution (or solve the problem) very quickly and efficiently.
A community will always be more reactive than a f$%#ing hot line.
首先因为她非常非常快，不会“"吃掉"所有的cpu时间 ... 第二，因为协作， 当我有问题（或者解决方案）我可以得到解决方案（或者解决问题）非常的快速高效.
社区总是反应(迅速), 比 F$%#ing 热线 ..
[转帖]为什么你选择 ubuntu 而不是 windows ?
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Yeah. I also got fed up with Vista.
I have been using Windows since 3.1 and 95 a lot. Before that I used to use DOS and Linux at times.
10 years I used only Windows. But when Vista came out, it was time to make change. Vista is slow, ugly and full of Microsoft $pyware, phone home features, license junk, DRM crap etc.
Before I ditched Windows. I started to look for open source programs. After a while I noticed that I actually didn't use ANY commercial products... Except... Windows. Then it was quite easy to get rid of that too.
7-Zip, Open Office, Thunder Bird, Firefox, VLC, eMule (aMule), uTorrent (Deluge)
So why I would like to have commercial os, if I don't use any other commercial software? And most of good open source programs are also available for Linux naturally.
P.S. I still want 7zFM ... And Q7Z isn't correct answer.
Resistance Is Futile. You Will Be Assimilated!
嗯，我也厌倦了 vista
过去我一直用 windows 从 3.1到 95, 在那之前我也用过几次 dos linux ..
10年来我只用 windows , 但是当 vista 出来以后，是到了改变的时候了，vista 就是慢.丑陋，充满了 Microsoft的 间谍软件，phone home 乱七八糟的授权，DRM废话 等等 ...
在我抛弃windows 之前，我开始寻找开源的软件. 不久我注意到我实际上不用任何商业软件，除了 windows . 所以也很容易的就可以扔掉它
7-zip, Open office , thunder bird firefox VLC emule , uTorrent(deluge)
so 为什么我要用商业的操作系统，在我不用任何商业软件的的情形,? 而且大多数好的开源软件自然都是for linux的 ..
P.S. 我还是需要 7zFM. ...
你将被同化,抵抗是没有用的. 《Star Trek》系列中半生物半机械化的博格人(The Borg)的名句:“Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated
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Yeah. I also got fed up with Vista.
I have been using Windows since 3.1 and 95 a lot. Before that I used to use DOS and Linux at times.
10 years I used only Windows. But when Vista came out, it was time to make change. Vista is slow, ugly and full of Microsoft $pyware, phone home features, license junk, DRM crap etc.
Before I ditched Windows. I started to look for open source programs. After a while I noticed that I actually didn't use ANY commercial products... Except... Windows. Then it was quite easy to get rid of that too.
7-Zip, Open Office, Thunder Bird, Firefox, VLC, eMule (aMule), uTorrent (Deluge)
So why I would like to have commercial os, if I don't use any other commercial software? And most of good open source programs are also available for Linux naturally.
P.S. I still want 7zFM ... And Q7Z isn't correct answer.
Resistance Is Futile. You Will Be Assimilated!
嗯，我也厌倦了 vista
过去我一直用 windows 从 3.1到 95, 在那之前我也用过几次 dos linux ..
10年来我只用 windows , 但是当 vista 出来以后，是到了改变的时候了，vista 就是慢.丑陋，充满了 Microsoft的 间谍软件，phone home 乱七八糟的授权，DRM废话 等等 ...
在我抛弃windows 之前，我开始寻找开源的软件. 不久我注意到我实际上不用任何商业软件，除了 windows . 所以也很容易的就可以扔掉它
7-zip, Open office , thunder bird firefox VLC emule , uTorrent(deluge)
so 为什么我要用商业的操作系统，在我不用任何商业软件的的情形,? 而且大多数好的开源软件自然都是for linux的 ..
P.S. 我还是需要 7zFM. ...
你将被同化,抵抗是没有用的. 《Star Trek》系列中半生物半机械化的博格人(The Borg)的名句:“Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated
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After experiencing how my new Dell laptop with Vista preinstalled grew bigger and slower for no obvious reason, I switched to Ubuntu.
The differences are amazing. Its like if you allowed fresh air into your laptop. Suddenly everything is possible. Every problem you may encounter broadens your horizon and you become wiser, so to speak. I am rather new in the Ubuntu community but I start to feel the unique attraction emanating from Ubuntu.
Its rather a spiritual thing I guess....
在体会了我预装 vista 的新dell笔记本没什么明显原因的情况下变得越来越大越来越慢之后，于是我转用 ubuntu
差别令人惊讶，就像让新鲜空气吹进你的笔记本电脑 (汗!
) ,突然间，一切变为可能的。遇到的每一个问题都可能会拓宽你的视野，让你变得更加聪明，可以这么说。对于ubuntu社区我是一个新人，但我开始感觉到来自 ubuntu的独特的魅力
我猜, 这是一种精神方面的东西 ...
The differences are amazing. Its like if you allowed fresh air into your laptop. Suddenly everything is possible. Every problem you may encounter broadens your horizon and you become wiser, so to speak. I am rather new in the Ubuntu community but I start to feel the unique attraction emanating from Ubuntu.
Its rather a spiritual thing I guess....
在体会了我预装 vista 的新dell笔记本没什么明显原因的情况下变得越来越大越来越慢之后，于是我转用 ubuntu
差别令人惊讶，就像让新鲜空气吹进你的笔记本电脑 (汗!
) ,突然间，一切变为可能的。遇到的每一个问题都可能会拓宽你的视野，让你变得更加聪明，可以这么说。对于ubuntu社区我是一个新人，但我开始感觉到来自 ubuntu的独特的魅力我猜, 这是一种精神方面的东西 ...
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Why do you choose Ubuntu over Windows
This seems the wrong question. "Why do you choose Ubuntu over other other Linux distributions" is the one that should be asked.
这似乎是错误的问题, "你为什么选择ubuntu超过其它其它Linux发行版"，？这才是应该问的问题
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Why do you choose Ubuntu over Windows
This seems the wrong question. "Why do you choose Ubuntu over other other Linux distributions" is the one that should be asked.
这似乎是错误的问题, "你为什么选择ubuntu超过其它其它Linux发行版"，？这才是应该问的问题
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I've found it to be fast reliable and stable but the real selling point for me is the package management, which is superb. I love the fact that whatever I'm trying to accomplish, a range of options are no more than a few clicks away and really can't see myself wanting to go back to hunting through endless pages of trialware, demo programs and dodgyware.
嗯，每个人的情况都不同，对我来说 ubuntu 的确工作的很好, 没有错误，没有优化 ( 除非你说我安装一个受限的驱动在我的图形卡）.
我发现，它是快速，可靠和稳定的，但真正的卖点，对我来说是软件包的管理，非常优秀。我喜欢这样一个事实，无论我尝试做什么，总有一系列选项，按几下鼠标就行, 实在不想看到我自己回到对付用无尽的试用版，demo 程序和 dodgyware ( dodgy 狡猾 )
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Well, each to their own. For me, Ubuntu did work right out of the box with no errors and no tweaks (unless you count installing a restricted driver for my graphics card).Quote:
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I've pretty much had it up to here with Ubuntu. So I wanna see why other people choose this OS over the functional OS that is Windows. To me it seems if you want Ubuntu to work correctly, you have to tweak a bunch of errors. It's like having a good looking son who doesn't know how to do ****.
So Please. Tell me why you choose Ubuntu. And you can't say compiz or beryl.
I've found it to be fast reliable and stable but the real selling point for me is the package management, which is superb. I love the fact that whatever I'm trying to accomplish, a range of options are no more than a few clicks away and really can't see myself wanting to go back to hunting through endless pages of trialware, demo programs and dodgyware.
嗯，每个人的情况都不同，对我来说 ubuntu 的确工作的很好, 没有错误，没有优化 ( 除非你说我安装一个受限的驱动在我的图形卡）.
我发现，它是快速，可靠和稳定的，但真正的卖点，对我来说是软件包的管理，非常优秀。我喜欢这样一个事实，无论我尝试做什么，总有一系列选项，按几下鼠标就行, 实在不想看到我自己回到对付用无尽的试用版，demo 程序和 dodgyware ( dodgy 狡猾 )
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I prefer Xubuntu, but I use both. It's certainly not out of the box ready in my opinion (oh-so-close, but not there yet). I quite like it because it's much lighter on resources than most Microsoft products, but it's also very rewarding. I get quite a buzz out of using the CLI, because it makes me feel "hacker-y".
Thinking about it, the reason I feel the need to fix it is probably because with Linux I feel that it should work perfectly, and I fix every little thing, whereas with Windows I'd just leave it.
我更偏爱 xubuntu, 不过我两者都用，我的观点确实不能直接就可用，（非常接近了，但还不是），我相当喜欢她，因为她相比多数的microsoft 产品更少的占用资源 , 而且回报丰富， CLI让我很兴奋 ，因为它使我感觉到象 "黑客- Y "型
想想这个，我感觉需要调整它的理由可能是因为，用linux 我觉得它应该完美，我完善每一部分，windows 下我只想离开
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I prefer Xubuntu, but I use both. It's certainly not out of the box ready in my opinion (oh-so-close, but not there yet). I quite like it because it's much lighter on resources than most Microsoft products, but it's also very rewarding. I get quite a buzz out of using the CLI, because it makes me feel "hacker-y".
Thinking about it, the reason I feel the need to fix it is probably because with Linux I feel that it should work perfectly, and I fix every little thing, whereas with Windows I'd just leave it.
我更偏爱 xubuntu, 不过我两者都用，我的观点确实不能直接就可用，（非常接近了，但还不是），我相当喜欢她，因为她相比多数的microsoft 产品更少的占用资源 , 而且回报丰富， CLI让我很兴奋 ，因为它使我感觉到象 "黑客- Y "型
想想这个，我感觉需要调整它的理由可能是因为，用linux 我觉得它应该完美，我完善每一部分，windows 下我只想离开
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Actually, I kind of see where the threadstarter is coming from. For the average desktop user, Windows really does work better. However, for a power user like me, someone who wants configurability, features, and isn't afraid to tackle problems, it's great!
Linux is like opening up the hood of your car. Don't you want to know how your car works on the inside? Well, most people (such as the threadstarter) don't care about such things, they just want to push on the gas pedal and go somewhere. Linux, on the other hand, is about opening the hood and tinkering with your mechanical parts, checking the oil and transmission fluid levels, and maybe replacing a fan belt. While the typical Windows user panics when something goes wrong, then pays a monkey from Microsoft to Remote Desktop into their computer and fix the problem, Linux is all about more power to the user. Obviously, with more power comes more responsibility, which is something 95% of computer users aren't ready for.
EDIT: Oh, and to those who say that Windows is more vulnerable, yes, it is, most definitely. However, I think a lot of people exaggerate how vulnerable Windows really is. So long as you are smart about what you download, use a good firewall and anti-virus protection, and actually use your brain, you will not get infected. Now, when I say you need to be "smart," that includes disabling unneeded Windows Services, making some registry modifications, blocking vulnerable ports with a firewall (139 and 445 for example), using a standard User account, and not using foolish software such as Limewire. Yes, Windows will take about a day to get installed and secured properly, but so long as the person who is using it isn't a complete moron, you are usually pretty safe. I went for about a year without suffering from virus or spyware infection, and that was just with a periodic scan, no active anti-virus software.
实际上，我大致能看出楼主来自哪里( !!歧视的语气
), 对于一般的桌面用户, windows 确实更加适合，然而，对于象我这样的有能力的用户，一些想要配置，功能，并且不怕处理问题的用户，她很棒 !
linux 就象打开引擎盖的汽车，你不想知道你的车内部怎么工作么？ 好吧，大部分人不关心这些事，他们只想踩油门去某个地方，linux不同，调整你的机械部件 , ，检查机油和变速箱油的水平,也许更换风扇皮带。而典型的 windows 用户在问题发生的时候（只会）产生恐慌 , 然后付费给 ms 远程登录到桌面解决问题， linux 是把更多的权力交给用户，显然，更多的权力带来更多的责任，而 95 ％以上的计算机用户都没有准备好
哦，那些说Windows是脆弱的，是的，的确。不过，我想有很多人都夸大了 windows 如何脆弱。只要你足够聪明知道你下载的东西，用一个好的防火墙和防病毒保护，并真正用你的大脑，你就不会受感染。现在，当我说你须要变得 "更聪明" ，包括禁用不必要的Windows服务，做一些注册表的修改外，用防火墙关闭不必要的端口（ 类似139, 445），使用标准用户帐户，而不是用愚蠢的软件如， Lime Wire 。是的， Windows大概会要一天安装并设置安全，我运行了大约一年没有受病毒或间谍软件( 感染 )，而仅仅是一个周期性的扫描，没有任何积极的反病毒软件。
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Actually, I kind of see where the threadstarter is coming from. For the average desktop user, Windows really does work better. However, for a power user like me, someone who wants configurability, features, and isn't afraid to tackle problems, it's great!
Linux is like opening up the hood of your car. Don't you want to know how your car works on the inside? Well, most people (such as the threadstarter) don't care about such things, they just want to push on the gas pedal and go somewhere. Linux, on the other hand, is about opening the hood and tinkering with your mechanical parts, checking the oil and transmission fluid levels, and maybe replacing a fan belt. While the typical Windows user panics when something goes wrong, then pays a monkey from Microsoft to Remote Desktop into their computer and fix the problem, Linux is all about more power to the user. Obviously, with more power comes more responsibility, which is something 95% of computer users aren't ready for.
EDIT: Oh, and to those who say that Windows is more vulnerable, yes, it is, most definitely. However, I think a lot of people exaggerate how vulnerable Windows really is. So long as you are smart about what you download, use a good firewall and anti-virus protection, and actually use your brain, you will not get infected. Now, when I say you need to be "smart," that includes disabling unneeded Windows Services, making some registry modifications, blocking vulnerable ports with a firewall (139 and 445 for example), using a standard User account, and not using foolish software such as Limewire. Yes, Windows will take about a day to get installed and secured properly, but so long as the person who is using it isn't a complete moron, you are usually pretty safe. I went for about a year without suffering from virus or spyware infection, and that was just with a periodic scan, no active anti-virus software.
实际上，我大致能看出楼主来自哪里( !!歧视的语气
), 对于一般的桌面用户, windows 确实更加适合，然而，对于象我这样的有能力的用户，一些想要配置，功能，并且不怕处理问题的用户，她很棒 !linux 就象打开引擎盖的汽车，你不想知道你的车内部怎么工作么？ 好吧，大部分人不关心这些事，他们只想踩油门去某个地方，linux不同，调整你的机械部件 , ，检查机油和变速箱油的水平,也许更换风扇皮带。而典型的 windows 用户在问题发生的时候（只会）产生恐慌 , 然后付费给 ms 远程登录到桌面解决问题， linux 是把更多的权力交给用户，显然，更多的权力带来更多的责任，而 95 ％以上的计算机用户都没有准备好
哦，那些说Windows是脆弱的，是的，的确。不过，我想有很多人都夸大了 windows 如何脆弱。只要你足够聪明知道你下载的东西，用一个好的防火墙和防病毒保护，并真正用你的大脑，你就不会受感染。现在，当我说你须要变得 "更聪明" ，包括禁用不必要的Windows服务，做一些注册表的修改外，用防火墙关闭不必要的端口（ 类似139, 445），使用标准用户帐户，而不是用愚蠢的软件如， Lime Wire 。是的， Windows大概会要一天安装并设置安全，我运行了大约一年没有受病毒或间谍软件( 感染 )，而仅仅是一个周期性的扫描，没有任何积极的反病毒软件。
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Yeah, but "For the average desktop user" that's really difficult! "For a power user" unlike me it's great!
是的，不过 "对于一般的桌面用户“" 这些太难了！ "对于power用户" （而我不是）, 她很棒!
Windows is like opening up the hood of your car. Don't you want to know how your car works on the inside? Well, most people (such as me) don't care about such things, they just want to surf the web and go somewhere. Windows, on the other hand, is about opening the registry and tinkering with your mechanical parts, checking the firewall and virusscanner updates, and maybe blocking a WGA patch.
linux 就象打开引擎盖的汽车，你不想直到你的车内部怎么工作么？ 嗯，多数人（比如我）并不关心这些事情，他们只是想上网去一些地方，windows ,另一方面，就是打开注册表，修理你的机械部分，检查防火墙，杀毒软件升级，或者关掉 WGA
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So long as you are smart about what you download, use a good firewall and anti-virus protection, and actually use your brain, you will not get infected. Now, when I say you need to be "smart," that includes disabling unneeded Windows Services, making some registry modifications, blocking vulnerable ports with a firewall (139 and 445 for example), using a standard User account, and not using foolish software such as Limewire. ... so long as the person who is using it isn't a complete moron ...
Yeah, but "For the average desktop user" that's really difficult! "For a power user" unlike me it's great!
是的，不过 "对于一般的桌面用户“" 这些太难了！ "对于power用户" （而我不是）, 她很棒!
Windows is like opening up the hood of your car. Don't you want to know how your car works on the inside? Well, most people (such as me) don't care about such things, they just want to surf the web and go somewhere. Windows, on the other hand, is about opening the registry and tinkering with your mechanical parts, checking the firewall and virusscanner updates, and maybe blocking a WGA patch.
linux 就象打开引擎盖的汽车，你不想直到你的车内部怎么工作么？ 嗯，多数人（比如我）并不关心这些事情，他们只是想上网去一些地方，windows ,另一方面，就是打开注册表，修理你的机械部分，检查防火墙，杀毒软件升级，或者关掉 WGA
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Everyone I know (co-workers and friends) who has gotten any kind of malware has had a firewall and anti-virus protection and anti-spyware protection.
That anti-* protection doesn't work if you can be easily socially engineered and if you always run as administrator.
The best way to lock down Windows is to run as a limited user and use the administrator account only when you have to. It's annoying to do (there's no sudo in Windows, and Run as is crippled), but it's the best approach to security XP has.
我认识的人（同事，朋友），中了流氓软件的都有防火墙，防病毒保护，反间谍保护。
锁住windows最好的办法是作为受限用户运行，只在必须管理员的时候才用管理账户，很烦人（windows 没有sudo , Run as 是个残废） , 但是这是让 xp 安全的最好的办法
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Everyone I know (co-workers and friends) who has gotten any kind of malware has had a firewall and anti-virus protection and anti-spyware protection.
That anti-* protection doesn't work if you can be easily socially engineered and if you always run as administrator.
The best way to lock down Windows is to run as a limited user and use the administrator account only when you have to. It's annoying to do (there's no sudo in Windows, and Run as is crippled), but it's the best approach to security XP has.
我认识的人（同事，朋友），中了流氓软件的都有防火墙，防病毒保护，反间谍保护。
锁住windows最好的办法是作为受限用户运行，只在必须管理员的时候才用管理账户，很烦人（windows 没有sudo , Run as 是个残废） , 但是这是让 xp 安全的最好的办法
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ubuntu is great free apps galore,free upgrades every 6 months,virus and spyware free..the list goes on and on and on.
Trust me when you get using ubuntu,your gonna love it and forget about MS windows...MS is expensive junk.
ubuntu 很棒，大量的自由软件，6个越免费升级，没有病毒spyware ... 列表可以很长很长。
trust me . 你用ubuntu 就会爱上它，并且忘掉 windows .. MS 是昂贵的垃圾
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ubuntu is great free apps galore,free upgrades every 6 months,virus and spyware free..the list goes on and on and on.
Trust me when you get using ubuntu,your gonna love it and forget about MS windows...MS is expensive junk.
ubuntu 很棒，大量的自由软件，6个越免费升级，没有病毒spyware ... 列表可以很长很长。
trust me . 你用ubuntu 就会爱上它，并且忘掉 windows .. MS 是昂贵的垃圾
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Anyone who fits the above categories is not savvy enough to use a computer. Linux, Windows, BSD, I don't care...no operating system is good for them.Quote:
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That ant-* protection doesn't work if you can be easily socially engineered and if you always run as administrator.
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