[转帖]为什么你选择 ubuntu 而不是 windows ?

关于Ubuntu的故事或对Ubuntu的感慨及心情
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这篇东西没意思,不感兴趣
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linux狂热分子的话,缺乏公平公正的态度
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我更喜欢读原帖
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的确能找到相同的感触,甚至启发
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如果你认为,这个贴有点意义
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翻的太烂,影响到我阅读
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#61

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:10

61# money2themax
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do you realize that "windows" logo is SUPPOSED to be a window who was their artist windows are square not their crazy shape and we have a penguin Tux, a chameleon, ect an like kernel tom said "In an open source world, there are no needs for Windows, doors, or Gates" and it's true i have so much more fun with this system than i ever had with windows and because i'm aspiring to be computer repair man and programmer Linux offers the tools that i need and they are small also i write notes in a text file to remind me on what i need to know and i read about something before i dive into it like i'm buying the book that was advertised with Edubuntu you need to want to learn with this OS
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#62

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:10

62#dgoosens
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Originally Posted by money2themax
In an open source world, there are no needs for Windows, doors, or Gates"
在开源的世界里,不需要 windows , 门,盖茨
... and one should not have to pay the Bill
... 而且人们不用买单

bill (账单). Gates
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#63

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:11

63#graabein
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I like GNU/Linux over Windows because I have full control over my personal computer and all the programs are free of cost. It's also a lot easier on the resources and I don't have to have antivirus programs running full time. Hands down Linux wins!
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我喜欢 GNU/Linux 因为我可以完全的控制我的个人电脑,而且所有软件都是免费的,资源占用率更小,我也不需要全天候的运行反病毒软件,
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#64

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:11

64#kenan6346
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Actually, I didn't chose Linux over Windows; I'll always be a Windows user because its easy; a couple of pages ago some guy said that he prefers Linux over Windows because Windows needs so many dependencies....I don't know why anyone would think that because in my week or two of experience, Linux needs so many dependencies its unbelievable!

But, I like to experiment so I downloaded Ubuntu so I could get a taste of Linux. I now dual boot Linux along with Windows XP so I can go back any time I need to. Linux has its short comings (as does Windows), so I can go back to the familiar Windows environment if I ever need to.

Other than trouble with dependencies, I've really enjoyed Linux, especially its ability to be modified; Windows just has explorer.exe, but Linux has Gnome, KDE, Xfce plus all the windows managers like Fluxbox and Enlightenment.
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实际上,我没有选择用linux 代替windows, 我一直是 windows用户,因为她简单 ; 两三页前有人说他喜欢用linux 替代windows 是因为windows 有那么多的依赖,我不知道为什么有人这么想,因为我一两周的体会,linux 才有那么多难以置信的依赖

但是,我喜欢体验,所以我下载了ubuntu ,我可以体验一下 linux , 我现在是双启动,我可以在任何时间回到(windows) , linux用的时间不长(相比windows) , 所以我可以回到我熟悉的 windows 环境在我需要的时候

除了依赖关系的麻烦,我真的很喜欢linux , 特别是能够修改; windows 只有个 explorer.exe , 而linxu 有 gnome /KDE xfce 超过所有的 windows 管理器, fluxbox enlightment ..
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#65

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:11

65#nikolas68
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I've started with the live CD....liked it...installed....NOW i'm never using Window$: i still have it installed....in case there's something i cannot do with Ubuntu (so far hasn't happened )

Great to be free....
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我从 live-cd 启动开始...喜欢它,安装... , 现在我不用 window$ , 我仍然装着它,以防有什么事情 ubuntu 做不了的时候,(直到现在还没有发生)

自由真伟大 ...
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#66

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:12

66#Wharf Rat's Avatar
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I played with Xandros for about a year and it just did not do much for me. OK but no fireworks.
PCLinuxos was better - a few more fireworks, free. I was impressed, especially with the price.

I decided to try Ubuntu about six months ago. Wow. It was like putting ointment on a rash. I spent days playing with settings, installing and removing software.. . tinkering. Of course I had a few foul ups that scared me. To my amazement, I worked myself out of several WITHOUT reinstalling the OS. You cannot survive video driver corruption in Windows without a reinstall. I managed to work my way back to a good gui in Ubuntu. I was really impressed.

I still have XP on my main PC at home so I can go back if I need something. Funny thing is, with XP dormant I now actually feel it is safe from a virus. Funny thing is the machine runs MUCH faster with Ubuntu than Windows/Anti-virus/Anti-Spam.

Now my laptop is only loaded with Ubuntu. I am still tinkering through a home server. This isn't working too well, I may have to look at another distro.

Most people have already covered all the points to using Ubuntu.


I do miss a few things. There is NOT a native package that compares to Quicken. I pretty much tried them all. Moneydance is close. I use it, but it has issues.

我 Xandros 玩了大约一年,它不太适合我,没 fireworks
PClinuxos 好一些,多一些 fireworks, 自由,印象较深,特别是价格


我决定尝试ubuntu 大约6个月前。哇。就像把药膏膏抹在皮炎上(这比喻诡异)。我花了几天时间设置,安装和删除软件.. 。修修补补。当然,我也有过几次犯错吓到了我。我惊奇地是,不需要重装操作系统。你不能够幸存(要重启),当你在windows 下修正视频驱动。我用自己的办法在ubuntu下调整好看的 gui 。我是真的留下深刻的印象。



在我家里主要的 PC上, 还是装着 windows,这样我就可以回去,如果我需要什么。有趣的是,我觉得XP静止状态(大概是不上网),它是安全的,不会感染病毒。有趣的是,该(ubuntu)机器运行快得多与比运行 Windows /反病毒/反垃圾邮件的机器

现在我的笔记本电脑是唯一装的是ubuntu。我仍然修修补补通过home服务器。这不是很有效,我可能需要尝试一下其他的 liunux distro 。

大部分人都已经说了 ubuntu 所有的重点部分

我的确错过了几件事。没有原生的软件包可于 Quicken(财务软件) 相比, 我几乎试过所有的。 moneydance接近。我用它,但也有问题。
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#67

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:13

67#Skorzen
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Originally Posted by Steveway View Post
It just works, it's faster, nicer, more stable.
And it is free, not only free of charge but really free.
Why would you use Windows if you can use a better OS, like Ubuntu?
Answer given. It's also prettier.
给出答案: “"她也很漂亮" (winxp)
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#68

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:13

68#bomanizer's Avatar
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It's more fun
+ I have the DIY-attitude on almost everything.

更有趣 ( ubuntu )
+ 几乎所有的事情我都喜欢 DIY
( Do It Youself )
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#69

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:15

69#Tomosaur
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Actually, I didn't chose Linux over Windows; I'll always be a Windows user because its easy; a couple of pages ago some guy said that he prefers Linux over Windows because Windows needs so many dependencies....I don't know why anyone would think that because in my week or two of experience, Linux needs so many dependencies its unbelievable!

But, I like to experiment so I downloaded Ubuntu so I could get a taste of Linux. I now dual boot Linux along with Windows XP so I can go back any time I need to. Linux has its short comings (as does Windows), so I can go back to the familiar Windows environment if I ever need to.

Other than trouble with dependencies, I've really enjoyed Linux, especially its ability to be modified; Windows just has explorer.exe, but Linux has Gnome, KDE, Xfce plus all the windows managers like Fluxbox and Enlightenment.
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I think that poster meant 'dependencies' as 'X part of the system is dependent on Y' - so that if Y crashes, so does X, which is why you get things like IE being able to lock up your whole machine - why if an explorer (the file manager) window locks up and you have to kill it, your whole desktop and taskbar disappears, and so on.

This is very different from Linux - where a lot of effort is put into modularity and software 'independence'. The only reason software packages in Linux have dependencies is because it is far more efficient, and is also the reason why, should you ever install anything via command line, you'll see that a LOT of software in Linux is split into several packages - usually the application binaries, then application libraries, etc. If software X needs a library from software Y, then you only need to install the 'lib-Y' package, and not the whole of software Y. The upshot of all of this is that while software shares libraries and system daemons and stuff - they are mostly independent of the OS itself. The OS / kernel just sits there in the background and does what it needs to do. When one application crashes, you just kill it and move on. When a Windows application crashes, it could send your whole system down.

Windows software packages tend to bundle everything together so that packages are 'self-contained', and a single .exe contains everything it needs for that software to run. This 'looks' great to the end user, but in reality that .exe contains stuff which is possibly already on your system, maybe even under a different file-name. This leads to redundancy and waste. A repository system would improve Windows a lot, but I just don't think it's possible given the primary development model for Windows software is proprietary and closed.

我认为那个帖子的意思是 "系统的 X部分依赖Y" , 所以如果Y崩溃了,x也跟着崩溃, 这就象IE出问题了会导致整个机器死掉,-为什么一个浏览器(文件浏览器)死锁,你不得不杀掉它, 却导致你的桌面,任务栏也消失了,等等....

linux 就有很大的区别,- 很大的原因来自于模块化,软件"独立性" , linux 软件包产生依赖的唯一原因是她更为高效
( 这里指的是 linux 动态库,共享库机制 ),而这个就是你需要通过命令行安装所有东西的原因,你可能看到了许多 linux 软件都分割成许多的包,通常是应用的2进制(可执行包),应用库文件,etc. 如果软件X 需要用到软件 Y 的库,你只需要安装,“"lib-Y"包,而不是完整的软件Y , 结论是共享软件库,和system-daemons( 系统后台服务 ) 是尽量的独立于操作系统本身, OS/内核 只是在后台做他们该做的事情,当一个应用崩溃了,你只需要kill 掉然后继续 ... 当一个windows 程序崩溃掉,它可能把整个系统搞死

Windows软体包往往都捆绑在一起,使包是'自成一体' ,一个单一的可执行文件包含一切运行所需要的东西...。对于最终用户,这'看起来'很棒, 但实际上... 可执行文件包含的内容可能在你的系统上已经有了,甚至只是一个不同的文件名。这导致冗余和浪费。 一个源系统就比 windows 强好多
( 指的是软件包管理机制 )但是我不认为有必要给出 windows 主要的开发模块 . Windows软件是专有的,封闭的.
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#70

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 14:16

70#jtkirk
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It runs perfectly fine on low-end machines. Allows recycling old hardware. No viruses.

I have 3 ubuntu installs at home, 1 for my teenage daughter. All bought on Ebay for under 100$.

If computing needs are internet-based (and what ISNT, these days?), then Linux/Firefox is enough. You don't need a high-end machine.

More simple user interface, in my opinion.

Support for muitple workspaces (avoids creation of tons of windows that clutter the desktop)

I think Gnome is better than windows because it's SIMPLER and more intuitive.

Then, of course, there is the TONS of command line tools that are built into linux ....

她( ubuntu )在低配置的机器上跑得很好,可以让老的硬件得到再利用 . 没有病毒

我家里装了3个ubuntu : 1个是我十几岁的女儿用 , 都是在 Ebay 买的,不超过 100 $

如果计算机只是用来上上网(不是这样么?在当下), 那么 linux/firefox 足够了,你不需要一个高档的机器

界面更简洁,我的观点是..

支持多个工作区,(避免大量的窗口使桌面变得杂乱)

我觉得 gnome 比 windows 要好,因为它简单直观

所以,linux 才内置了一大堆的命令行工具
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#71

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 17:13

71#Humph
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Why I have ditched Windows XP in favour of Ubuntu.

When I started reading about the, err, "features" of Vista I decided that the time had come to move away from Windows after a stay of 17 years.

No DRM, no WGA, no viruses, no spyware, no being forced to pay through the nose for the same functionality I get for free and by default with Ubuntu, and I'm much more confident that there is nothing in the OS that monitors my actions or reports home without my consent.

I now have my old copy of XP running as a VM under VirtualBox purely for humour value.

我为什么扔掉 windows xp 支持 linux ...

当我开始阅读有关 vista 的 err, 特征的时候,我确定 windows 时间已经过去了 17 年 .

没有 DRM, 没有 WGA , 没病毒, 没间谍, 没有被强迫为相同功能缴纳费用 ... 我得到是免费缺省安装了的 ubuntu . 而且我确信 OS不会监视我的行动,在没有我同意的情况下报告我的隐私


DRM 数字版权管理
WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage)Windows正版优势软件
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#72

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 17:14

72#money2themax
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this is my thought: "It's not yours if you can't do as you wish with it"

Windows:
1. DRM
2. 1 CD/DVD per person [meaning you can't give it to your friend after you install it]
3. Expensive $200~$400 for something that you NEED is not what most people want to hear
4. viruses, malware, ect
5. defragmentation of HDD
6. Expensive Virus Protection
7. Bloated programs
8. Vista 15GB for the OS
need i go on?

这是我的想法:“"如果你不能做你想做的,那就不是你的"

windows :
1. DRM
2. 1 cd/dvd/每人 [ 就是说你不能装完了再给你朋友 ]
3. 昂贵 $200~400 , 付给有些你'不需要',甚至没听说过的东西
4. 病毒,垃圾邮件,etc.
5. 硬盘碎片(化)
6. 高昂的病毒保护代价
7. 臃肿的程序
8. Vista 需要 15G (硬盘空间)

还要我继续么?
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#73

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 17:14

73#el_ricardo
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I started using linux because my windows broke completely, and i had lost the xp install disk, at first i booted a live CD to back up my data, (slax to be precise) and just started using that instead of traking down my xp install disk, not on purpose, just because it was there, and everything worked. Then i thought "why not just install linux properly and be done with it?" so i did, and haven;t looked back since!

despite all that i did eventually install windows again and now i dual boot, but i chose to use linux basically because it was more convenient!

我开始用 linux 是因为我的 windows 彻底的不能用了,而且我弄丢了 xp 安装盘,起先我从 live-cd 引导备份我的数据,( 准确的说是 slax ) 仅仅是为了替代我的 xp 安装盘 , 并不是为了(装linux),只不过刚好( 有张盘 )在那,然后发现所有的都能正常工作, 然后我就想: “为什么我不干脆装一个linux 在上边工作呢?",于是,我就装了,一直都没有回头 !

虽然我最后还是装了 windows 现在是双启动 , 但是我基本上选择用 linux 因为它更加方便 !


( this guy really cute :) )
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#74

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 17:15

74#Cannaregio's Avatar
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I CHOOSE LINUX OVER WINDOWS TO GET TROUBLED WHEN TRYING TO PLAY A CHESS GAME WITH 3D VIEW!!!!

Anyway, that doesn't mean I still don't love Ubuntu.

Here's one thing few people might think about:

Ubuntu is way BETTER than Windows because I'm the only one in my house who dares to deal with an OS other than WIndows, so I can keep all my passwords and secret documents safe, and still not hidden.

PD: Hey every1, seriously!!, I still can't get to play 3d chess and no one helps me I'd love to get a solution to this problem.....


A solution could be to install fritz-7 through wine.

It's a 2001 software edition that still kicks. 3D and everything you may need.
It has a connection to playchess com and everything a good chess program should have. And it works flawlessly in ubuntu.

You can download a Free ten-day trial version of Fritz7 PlayChess client at http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=237 or easily find some abandonedware copy on the web. Just google for it adding -demo and +plus07 and/or use directly your deluge.

Instructions here.
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#75

帖子 iblicf » 2007-12-30 17:15

75#BLTicklemonster
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For me, it's like choosing a tinker toy over a brick. You can do all kinds of things with a tinker toy, but a brick just .. well, it's a brick, always will be.

And of course the whole idea of ownership, customization, free, etc. If I want something, I don't have to go looking all over the place to see what the cheapest program I can buy is, or see if there's shareware or freeware versions of it, I just go to synaptic and get it. That alone is worth any headaches one might encounter with Linux.

And something new to learn.

对我来说,就像选择一个象积木一样的组合玩具 , 你可以用这个组合玩具做各种各样的事情 , 但只是个积木, 永远是 ...

而且当然整个的概念, 所有权,个性,自由,等等,如果我想要什么,我不用去到处去寻找,看看有什么是最便宜的软件,或者看看是否有的共享软件,免费软件版本可用,我只要 synmaptic(新立得),并获取它。仅仅这一点就值得( 忍受 ) linux下可能遇到的任何头疼的事情。

还可以学一些新的东西。
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