[转帖]为什么你选择 ubuntu 而不是 windows ?

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16#steveneddy
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Originally Posted by radlations View Post
I've pretty much had it up to here with Ubuntu.
To where, exactly?

I find that Ubuntu is great as a stock OS as long as you get the correct codecs and stuff like Flash and Adobe Reader installed. I use it for work every day on my laptop and it works wonderfully for me. We even use it for streaming music for the office because there isn't a Windows machine in the house that will stream for more than two hours before crashing, requiring a restart.

我发现 ubuntu 是个好的常备 OS ( stock OS 也是我瞎编的 ) , 只要你弄好解码器和类似flash/adobe reader 这样的东西, 我每天都在我的笔记本上用她，而且她工作的很好，我们甚至用她在办公室里做流格式音乐（播放）, 因为房间里没有 windows 机器可以超过2小时不崩溃，而不需要重启

I like the security, dependability, stability and customability of this fine OS.
我喜欢（这个优秀OS 的）安全性，可靠的，稳定，和可定制性

I also find that a mostly stock Ubuntu runs best.
而且我发现多数时候备用的 ubuntu 工作的很好.

I have Compiz-Fusion, Flash, Adobe reader, all of the DVD and media codecs and that's about it. I tweaked a little to get suspend to work in Gutsy, but it took a 5 minute search and a 20 second hack to get it working.

我装了 compiz-fusion, flash , adobe reader , 为所有的DVD ，媒体格式 , 因为 gutsy ( suspend)不能工作，我做了少许优化， 不过只用了5分钟找（search web）, 20秒钟就解决了

I go between 6 or 7 wireless networks and I can suspend and go to another wireless network and it still hooks up. Flawless

我经过 6-7个无线网络，我可以挂起后走到另一个无线网, 而她仍然可以连上，完美

My boss's new Vista laptop won't hibernate OR suspend, and I grill him about it every day.
我老板的新 vista 笔记本不能休眠挂起，我每天都要烧烤他( 愚挪他 )

Why do I use Ubuntu. Because I can. It is easy. I am free, and so is my computer.
我为什么用ubuntu . 因为我能用，简单，自由，这就是我的机子
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17#SunnyRabbiera
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Originally Posted by radlations View Post
My wifi connection randomly died. So thats the start of my issues.

Firefox freezes when I close a streaming movie. (I heard this was a flash issue and is unavoidable)
Folders are difficult to arrange. (Im running Gnome)
Photoshop doesnt work. (I get some hardware error when using Wine)
Games are limited to whatever Wine's DB has. (So It seems if you wanna play games, then dual boot with windows)

well yes that first issue is a little rough right now, wifi is still a little loose but progress is always being made here
是的，第一个问题有点麻烦， 现在wifi (的支持)还很不足，不过改善的过程一直进行中

for the firefox issues, yeh there is an error in flash, but firefox 3 when it comes out (hopefully by the time the next ubuntu is ready) is supposed to fix a lot of issues seen in firefox 2... then again it depends on what you loads and how much memory you have.
firefox 问题，flash 有个错误，ff3 ( 希望下个稳定版发布的时候能赶上 ) ,已经修正了许多ff2的问题 ,

for re arranging folders, well moving stuff around in nautilus is no different then moving stuff around in windows, can you explain your issue in more detail here?
photoshop, well thats a tough one, it really depends on the version you are tying to load.
I know the more later version of photoshop do not work very well under wine, so maybe you might need to invest in crossover office... what version are you trying to run might I ask?
as for games there is little help there, please keep in mind that most games have windows in mind only, we can only do so much you know...

always remember:
ubuntu is not a windows replacement, it is a windows ALTERNATIVE
so if everything doesnt work do not act like Ubuntu is inferior, really most issues are no fault of ours.

永远记住:
ubuntu 不是 windows 替代者 , 她对于 windows 是另一个选择
, 如果什么地方有问题了并不是 ubuntu 较差 , 事实上大多数问题不是我们的错

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18#werewolffzx8

------"It just works"

I really didn't have to do to much tweaking to get my box to function properly, although I did do a lot of tweaking cause I wanted to get it just the way I wanted it.
After installing Windows, I have a crap load of drivers to install, and a lot of tweaking to do, but I can never get it just the way I want it. Then after all that's done, I have to worry about viruses, and random crashes. Ubuntu does crash on me, but that's mainly my fault for digging around in files I should stay out of... >.>

我真的不是必须要做优化让我的机子功能更强，尽管我做了不少优化因为我只是想让她成为我想要的那样. windows 装完以后我装一堆驱动，也有不少的优化事情要做，但是仍然不能得到我想要的. 所有事情做完了，我又开始担心病毒，随机性的死机，。 ubuntu 也死机，不过那主要是因为我的错误-改了本不该改的文件

I feel much more secure using Ubuntu, and it has all my needs met:
Gaming - Second Life, ETQW, UT, WoW, and other various Linux "mini games" (WINE helps)
Productivity - OpenOffice.org is exactly what I need, at the perfect price... FREE
Image Editing - I've always used Gimp
Entertainment - Totem/VLC for movies, Banshee for mah music
Messenging - Pidgin of course
Internet - Firefox and IEs4Linux
Look and Feel - Gnome is perfect for me, and I get the choice of other Enviroments as well. I can also customize it just about any way I want, unlike windows.

我感觉用 ubuntu 更安全，达到了我所有的要求：
游戏 - second life ETQW UT WOW , 还有其他各种 linux 小游戏 (借助WINE)
生产力 - OOo , 正是我想要的，而且绝好的价格 - 免费
图像编辑 - 我一直用 gimp
娱乐 - Totem/VLC 看电影， Banshee 听音乐
通讯 - 当然是 pidgin
Internat- ff & IE4linux
外观感受 - gnome 就很好 , 我也可以选其他桌面环境 ， 可以定制成我想要的样子， 不像 windows


There's a bunch more reasons, but I don't feel like typing them ALL ^-^
很多理由， 不过我不想都打出来 ^^

If Windows works for you, but Ubuntu doesn't, then good! You found an OS that works for you, and meets your needs. Linux is a choice, and you can choose NOT to use it. Ubuntu, Fedora, and Wolvix all work for me, and I love all three!
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如果windows 为你工作的很好，但是ubuntu不能，好吧，你找到了满足你要求的 OS , linux 是个选择， 你也可以选择不用它， ubuntu , Fedora , Wolvix 在我这里都工作的很好，3个我都喜欢

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19#CJ56
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Pretty simple, really. At the start of this year, I was quite happily using Win Xp. Then Microsoft launched Vista and announced the gradual closing down of Xp. This obliged me to consider some new and not always agreeable options.

很简单，真的，年初的时候 winxp 我用的挺高兴， 后来M$ 发布了Vista 并且宣布逐渐的退出xp 支持，这强迫我考虑一些新的不是总令人愉快的选择 .

1) I could stay with Microsoft. This meant either continuing with Xp, an obsolescent OS which is perfectly good, but long in the tooth, pretty inflexible and, sometime in the next few years, not going to be around. Or I could go with Vista. Now, I've never used Vista. It may be very good, once you set it up. What I do know is that it's provocatively expensive - either to buy a full-featured version on DVD, or to buy a whole new PC with it pre-installed. If I buy the DVD and install it, I can only do so a couple of times. It comes with various DRM issues I don't like the sound of. It's had pretty spotty reviews in the months since its release. Given all this, it didn't sound like a sensible choice, even leaving aside all the other issues concerning Microsoft's possible monopolistic abuses.

1) 我可以留在 Microsoft(阵营) , 意味着继续用 xp , 一个逐步废弃的还不错的操作系统，
2) I could switch over to a Mac. Very nice kit, very nice OS, and I'm sure Leopard will come good soon; as will the reported hardware snags with the new iMacs. But at least as pricey the Vista options: so it ruled itself out on cost.

3) I could try again with Linux. I had pretty awful run-in with SuSe a couple of years ago, but as it turned out, about the time I started to look around the Linux world again, Ubuntu 6.10 came out. I burned a disc, ran it as a live CD, found to my amazement that it worked. I installed it, found that I could do everything in Ubuntu that I was doing in Xp, and usually a bit better. I then went throught the Linux Distro Tart phase and played around with maybe 10 different Linux flavours. I came back to Ubuntu because it works well on my kit, it's already way ahead of Xp, it does everything I need, its evolving and improving all the time (in the eight months I've been using it, it's made many small but very satisfying steps forward), I just find it much easier to get on with than its rivals. And it costs the price of a blank CD.

Given these options, what would be the smart thing to do? I think I would have had to be exceptionally perverse to go for 1). I would have been a bit too carefree with the finances if I chose 2). As it happens, I really like Ubuntu and the way it works; and it's not difficult to feel extremely grateful to the people who put it together.

I think it's what they call a logical imperative...
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20#chris4585
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Ubuntu is free, and is cool, also micorsoft is the devil ( 恶魔 ) LOL!

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21#radlations
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It seems everything is built to favor Windows, but with patience and the willingness to learn, I can make ubuntu work for me.

看起来所有的东西都象是为了 windows 构造的，但是只要有一点耐心和学习的意愿，我可以让 ubuntu 为我工作

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22#SunnyRabbiera
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Originally Posted by radlations View Post
It seems everything is built to favor Windows, but with patience and the willingness to learn, I can make ubuntu work for me.

yes, for the most part.
i admit its not perfect, just think of linux like how apple was a few years ago...
it took some time for apple to get people working for it, but it works the same way here.
One can only hope for the best when concerning the future of linux

是的，大部分情况下
我承认她并不完美，想想 linux 就像几年前的 apple , apple 花了一些时间让人们能工作在上面，道理同样的，我们对于linux的明天寄予最好的期望
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23#jergar
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I hate MS. Ubuntu is much more better.
我憎恨 MS. Ubuntu ( 比它 ) 好多了

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24#pelle.k
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ubuntu is not a windows replacement, it is a windows ALTERNATIVE
Good point SunnyRabbiera! Gold star to you

I use ubuntu (and linux in general) because i love my gnome. It looks freakin wicked after i've themed it. I had an affair with KDE too, but i lost interest. KDE4 may light the flame again.

Also, if you've been using ubuntu the last few years, you must have noticed how quickly desktop linux is catching up with windows/macos. udev, xorg (esp 7.3), initramfs, hal, dbus, pulseaudio, dkms, compiz, kde4, gstreamer, good nvidia drivers (and now ATI is catching up)... I can go on forever. Things are REALLY happening. This is also where a bit of unstability comes from. It'll get better when things calm down a bit.

我使用 ubuntu ( 包括其他linux ) , 因为我喜欢 gnome . 换了主题以后看起来 freakin wicked ? . 我也喜欢 KDE , 不过(现在)我失去了兴趣 , KDE4 可能会重新点燃我的热情

同样的，如果你用过几年的 ubuntu ,你肯定注意到桌面领域 linux 追赶win/mac 的速度有多快， udev ,xorg（特别是7.3） initramfs, hal ,dbus ,pulseauudio ,dkms ,compiz , kde4 ,gstreamer , 良好的 nvidia 驱动，（现在ati 也赶上了） , 我可以一直写下去，这些事情真的发生了，当然也许有点不是很稳定， 等这些事平息下来会表现更好的

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25#boast
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Originally Posted by SunnyRabbiera View Post
windows bug free???
what is this, opposite world?

Adobe photoshop, premiere pro, foobar2000, trillian, rocketdock, movie maker, media player classic, cdburnerxp pro, etc...

I'm not talking about the OS.

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26# omegamike3
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One thing to remember as well is, why did you try/switch to Ubuntu in the first place? No matter how many reasons are listed for or against, only you can decide what's best for you.

有一点必须记住： 为什么你要把ubuntu 放在第一位，不管有多少反对的理由，只有你自己可以选择哪个是最好的

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27#Khaal
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* What is your wifi chipset? unfortunatly wifi support is not the best in linux, unless using a wifi card with linux support or using ndiswrapper. You might get lucky with the restricted drivers that comes with ubuntu though

你是什么 wifi 芯片 ? 不幸的是linux 下的wifi支持不是最好的, 除非用linux支持的wifi card 或者 ndiswrapper. 使用ubuntu自带的受限驱动, 你需要一点运气

* You might want to try another filemanager, or maybe even KDE? it might have a better logic for folders. What is it you're trying to do, and how? explain that to us and we might be abke ti help you.

你可以试试别的文件管理器，或者甚至 KDE , 文件管理逻辑可能会好点 , 你想做什么呢？ 给我们解释一下也许能帮到你

* Yes, most games are made for windows. Though some works in wine almost flawlessly, and others work well with some tweaks. With wineing comes the true test of patience

是的，多数的游戏是 for windows . 尽管一些可以完美的 wine , 其他的可以稍加调整， 使用wine 的确是要考验耐心的
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28#SunnyRabbiera
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Originally Posted by omegamike3 View Post
One thing to remember as well is, why did you try/switch to Ubuntu in the first place? No matter how many reasons are listed for or against, only you can decide what's best for you.

right, but hey there is no harm or crime in a dual boot...
If you dont feel that ubuntu does everything you want then there you go, but Ubuntu is good to have around anyways as soon XP will be obsolete and you may have to either:

A: ditch it
B: upgrade your computer for Vista, and this is a option that is harder then it sounds due to vistas high demands
C: get a new computer, or if you want to try it go apple as these days apples are not that bad
or D: dual boot

Option D sounds good to me
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没错，但是双启动既无害也无罪 ... 如果你觉得ubuntu 不能做你所有要求的事情，
ubuntu 擅长这样， 很快 xp 就会废弃，你可以选择如下：

A: 放弃 ( winxp )
B: 升级到vista , 这个选择比较困难，基于 vista 的硬件要求较高
C: 买个新电脑 , 或者如果你想尝试，用apple, 现在的 apple 也不赖
D: 双启动

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29#macogw
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It's all nice and customizable and lets me work exactly how I want without getting in the way. Getting it to work is no effort at all if your hardware is well-supported (as mine is). I like having multiple desktops and being able to set a window above all others so that if I need to reference it while working in another, the one where I'm typing doesn't keep blocking my view. Windows does that to me *constantly*.

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30#fuscia
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windows is soooooooooo damn boring.

windows 太太太太太太 TMD 无趣了