121#money2themax
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switch to Openoffice.org and use wine no more windows yay! ^^
[转帖]为什么你选择 ubuntu 而不是 windows ?
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123#mdsmedia
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In summary, because I've used Windows, and Ubuntu is just better.
总之，因为我用过windows , 而 ubuntu 更好.
With Windows it feels like you're always wrestling with the system just to keep it manageable. Linux/Ubuntu doesn't feel like that.
感觉 windows 下当你想使它可管理的时候总是受到阻挠， linux/ubuntu 不会有那样的感觉
In Windows, you're always looking for that shareware tool to do the job. After using a cut down app for 30 days (never long enough...or too long) you have to decide whether to fork out money to continue with it, and pay for upgrades to make it a little less unworkable. In Linux, find a tool in the package manager, see if it works for you, if it does, keep on using it. If not, find something else that might be better.
在windows 下你总是找共享软件，在用一个30天过期的软件后，你不得不考虑是否要支付 money 继续用，还是付费升级使它好用一点，linux 下，源里找个软件工具，看看它是不是能用，如果可以，留着，如果不能，再找别的可能更好
Linux is not perfect. Ubuntu isn't perfect. Windows isn't perfect. But at least in Linux you can improve your experience without having to jump through hoops just to find something that works. If it doesn't work, try something else.
linux 并不完美，ubuntu 也不完美，windows 也不完美，但至少linux 下你可以积累经验不需要唯命是从，只需要找到你能用的东西，如果不能，试试别的
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In summary, because I've used Windows, and Ubuntu is just better.
总之，因为我用过windows , 而 ubuntu 更好.
With Windows it feels like you're always wrestling with the system just to keep it manageable. Linux/Ubuntu doesn't feel like that.
感觉 windows 下当你想使它可管理的时候总是受到阻挠， linux/ubuntu 不会有那样的感觉
In Windows, you're always looking for that shareware tool to do the job. After using a cut down app for 30 days (never long enough...or too long) you have to decide whether to fork out money to continue with it, and pay for upgrades to make it a little less unworkable. In Linux, find a tool in the package manager, see if it works for you, if it does, keep on using it. If not, find something else that might be better.
在windows 下你总是找共享软件，在用一个30天过期的软件后，你不得不考虑是否要支付 money 继续用，还是付费升级使它好用一点，linux 下，源里找个软件工具，看看它是不是能用，如果可以，留着，如果不能，再找别的可能更好
Linux is not perfect. Ubuntu isn't perfect. Windows isn't perfect. But at least in Linux you can improve your experience without having to jump through hoops just to find something that works. If it doesn't work, try something else.
linux 并不完美，ubuntu 也不完美，windows 也不完美，但至少linux 下你可以积累经验不需要唯命是从，只需要找到你能用的东西，如果不能，试试别的
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I've pretty much had it up to here with Ubuntu. So I wanna see why other people choose this OS over the functional OS that is Windows. To me it seems if you want Ubuntu to work correctly, you have to tweak a bunch of errors. It's like having a good looking son who doesn't know how to do ****.
So Please. Tell me why you choose Ubuntu. And you can't say compiz or beryl.
Windows is not functional.
windows 并不实用
I reserve my right to include compiz and beryl in my list of reasons to use Linux.
我保留权力，compiz/beryl 在我用linux 的理由的列表
Linux is just a more effective OS for the things I do, I like to deploy cross platform C++ games, join programming contests, browse the web, play simple not over done games. And customize my stuff like crazy since I like my individuality (And therefore I include compiz-fusion in the list of things I like) Linux is simply much better at this than windows. I also need to do homework every once in a while and openOffice suffices for that or even tops MSOffice regarding writing math stuff.
对于我做的事情，Linux 是个高效率的OS， 我喜欢调试跨平台的 c++游戏，参加编程竞赛，浏览网页，玩一些简单的游戏，因为喜欢个性疯狂定制，（所以我要吧 compiz 加入我用的理由）linux 在这方面比 win 好的多，曾经一段时间我还需要做作业，openoffice 就可以做到就算 windows 下最复杂的数学公式
I also love the fact that no unexpected issue is gonna affect me, none of my problems are surprise and once I fixed the "errors" I don't have to setup my machine over and over again, in windows some esoteric virus can end everything or a driver could make windows freeze during boot after an antivirus update requiring me to , in the best case scenario use the ultra unfriendly and limit "recovery console" to fix stuff and in the worst case it would require me to reinstall windows, a process that takes ages. I can just count on Linux, if anything very bad happened I couldn't boot it again (not like it is likely) I would just insert my live-cd and still get to do my homework.
我喜欢它不会被没有预期的事情影响，不会有意外的事情，一旦调整好以后不需要一遍又一遍的设置, windows 下许多隐藏病毒可以终结任何试听，发病毒软件要装一个驱动能导致windows引导的时候死掉， 。。
It is also free open source software, so I don't lock anyone in to expensive technologies by using it. So, I must say I love ubuntu in all its dimensions. Any more questions?
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I've pretty much had it up to here with Ubuntu. So I wanna see why other people choose this OS over the functional OS that is Windows. To me it seems if you want Ubuntu to work correctly, you have to tweak a bunch of errors. It's like having a good looking son who doesn't know how to do ****.
So Please. Tell me why you choose Ubuntu. And you can't say compiz or beryl.
Windows is not functional.
windows 并不实用
I reserve my right to include compiz and beryl in my list of reasons to use Linux.
我保留权力，compiz/beryl 在我用linux 的理由的列表
Linux is just a more effective OS for the things I do, I like to deploy cross platform C++ games, join programming contests, browse the web, play simple not over done games. And customize my stuff like crazy since I like my individuality (And therefore I include compiz-fusion in the list of things I like) Linux is simply much better at this than windows. I also need to do homework every once in a while and openOffice suffices for that or even tops MSOffice regarding writing math stuff.
对于我做的事情，Linux 是个高效率的OS， 我喜欢调试跨平台的 c++游戏，参加编程竞赛，浏览网页，玩一些简单的游戏，因为喜欢个性疯狂定制，（所以我要吧 compiz 加入我用的理由）linux 在这方面比 win 好的多，曾经一段时间我还需要做作业，openoffice 就可以做到就算 windows 下最复杂的数学公式
I also love the fact that no unexpected issue is gonna affect me, none of my problems are surprise and once I fixed the "errors" I don't have to setup my machine over and over again, in windows some esoteric virus can end everything or a driver could make windows freeze during boot after an antivirus update requiring me to , in the best case scenario use the ultra unfriendly and limit "recovery console" to fix stuff and in the worst case it would require me to reinstall windows, a process that takes ages. I can just count on Linux, if anything very bad happened I couldn't boot it again (not like it is likely) I would just insert my live-cd and still get to do my homework.
我喜欢它不会被没有预期的事情影响，不会有意外的事情，一旦调整好以后不需要一遍又一遍的设置, windows 下许多隐藏病毒可以终结任何试听，发病毒软件要装一个驱动能导致windows引导的时候死掉， 。。
It is also free open source software, so I don't lock anyone in to expensive technologies by using it. So, I must say I love ubuntu in all its dimensions. Any more questions?
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If you had ever really worked on any computers running Windows then you would see what an inferior operating system Windows is. I hope that people keep using Microsoft Windows. It puts a lot of money in my pocket repairing Windows installs.
Eddie
如果你曾经真正的在任何机器上用过windows ，你可能就知道windows 是个多么差劲的操作系统，我希望那个人继续用 windows , 就会有很多windows 安装修理费到我口袋里 (这家伙大概是 ms 客服)
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If you had ever really worked on any computers running Windows then you would see what an inferior operating system Windows is. I hope that people keep using Microsoft Windows. It puts a lot of money in my pocket repairing Windows installs.
Eddie
如果你曾经真正的在任何机器上用过windows ，你可能就知道windows 是个多么差劲的操作系统，我希望那个人继续用 windows , 就会有很多windows 安装修理费到我口袋里 (这家伙大概是 ms 客服)
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是的！ 另一方面我愿意看到他们消亡，即使意味这我不得不去开叉车 .
我理解是：125/125楼大概都是靠 ms 谋生的，宁愿去开叉车也不赚那种钱（指微软收费服务）
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Right! I on the other hand will enjoy seeing their demise , even if it means I have to go drive a fork lift.Quote:
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If you had ever really worked on any computers running Windows then you would see what an inferior operating system Windows is. I hope that people keep using Microsoft Windows. It puts a lot of money in my pocket repairing Windows installs.
Eddie
是的！ 另一方面我愿意看到他们消亡，即使意味这我不得不去开叉车 .
我理解是：125/125楼大概都是靠 ms 谋生的，宁愿去开叉车也不赚那种钱（指微软收费服务）
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127#mdsmedia
So, windows 灭亡了可以让我们呼吸到新鲜空气，那么，也许，人们会看到他们失去了什么，就会为 linux写软件
I don't make my living because of Windows, but it sure slows me down every day.
我不靠 windows 谋生，但是它确实每天都延缓我
So, the demise of Windows would be a breath of fresh air for me too. Then, maybe, people would see what they're missing and software would be written for Linux.Quote:
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Right! I on the other hand will enjoy seeing their demise , even if it means I have to go drive a fork lift.
I don't work in IT, but I do have to work on Windows. I have to wrestle with it every working day, because that's what is on my work computers, because accounting software is written only for Windows, and Accountants (my bosses) know nothing but Windows.
So, windows 灭亡了可以让我们呼吸到新鲜空气，那么，也许，人们会看到他们失去了什么，就会为 linux写软件
I don't make my living because of Windows, but it sure slows me down every day.
我不靠 windows 谋生，但是它确实每天都延缓我
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I actually know a accountant who converted his whole office to Gnu/Linux , I'm not sure what he's using but I could find out , anyway I like the way you worded the end , lol no kidding....
我的确认识一个会计把他办公室(软件)都转成 Gnu/linux, 我不太清楚他具体用什么，但我能找到，总之，我喜欢你最后说的，lol 不是玩笑 ...
I might be being a little exaggerative , But I've been feeling like the guy at the end of "Office Space" dreaming about taking it a little easy with hard simple work , I don't know I think I may be getting a little burned out , honestly.
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I don't work in IT, but I do have to work on Windows. I have to wrestle with it every working day, because that's what is on my work computers, because accounting software is written only for Windows, and Accountants (my bosses) know nothing but Windows.
So, the demise of Windows would be a breath of fresh air for me too. Then, maybe, people would see what they're missing and software would be written for Linux.
I don't make my living because of Windows, but it sure slows me down every day.
I actually know a accountant who converted his whole office to Gnu/Linux , I'm not sure what he's using but I could find out , anyway I like the way you worded the end , lol no kidding....
我的确认识一个会计把他办公室(软件)都转成 Gnu/linux, 我不太清楚他具体用什么，但我能找到，总之，我喜欢你最后说的，lol 不是玩笑 ...
I might be being a little exaggerative , But I've been feeling like the guy at the end of "Office Space" dreaming about taking it a little easy with hard simple work , I don't know I think I may be getting a little burned out , honestly.
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The way I look at it is Microsoft is a monopoly. They try to control everything. Now what I mean by that is when you look around the world what types of new technology is operated by a MS program? When I drove a semi, my 2005 Freightliner Classic's computer had Microsoft Windows in it. That is just one point right there, but with Ubuntu you don't have to buy a brand new computer every 3 months to keep up with the new script in the OS. Ubuntu is 100 times faster than Windows is, and Windows will never have the security that Linux in general has. You read in the newspaper or hear on the news all the time about viruses that attack computers to destroy data, and sadly all of those computers are operated by Windows. Plus I like the ability to tweak the OS and change things to how I want them, or completely re-write the kernal and make my own version of Linux.
我看到 microsoft 就是垄断，他们想控制所有事情，我这里的意思是，当你看看世界，ms 的软件哪个有新的技术？ 。。
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The way I look at it is Microsoft is a monopoly. They try to control everything. Now what I mean by that is when you look around the world what types of new technology is operated by a MS program? When I drove a semi, my 2005 Freightliner Classic's computer had Microsoft Windows in it. That is just one point right there, but with Ubuntu you don't have to buy a brand new computer every 3 months to keep up with the new script in the OS. Ubuntu is 100 times faster than Windows is, and Windows will never have the security that Linux in general has. You read in the newspaper or hear on the news all the time about viruses that attack computers to destroy data, and sadly all of those computers are operated by Windows. Plus I like the ability to tweak the OS and change things to how I want them, or completely re-write the kernal and make my own version of Linux.
我看到 microsoft 就是垄断，他们想控制所有事情，我这里的意思是，当你看看世界，ms 的软件哪个有新的技术？ 。。
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now don't take this the wrong way but i think the reason nobody makes viruses/malware is because the ppl making the viruses are running Linux [or don't know how to right them for Linux cuz we evolve, adapt, survive] plus most [if not all] of the Linux community are smart enough to stop them cold and fix the problem right away unlike Microsoft who take forever and a day to even think about solving the problem and then its only half assed attempt at a fix.
P.S. I'm not trying to say your all hackers or anything like that i know that you guys are out to make the world a better p
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now don't take this the wrong way but i think the reason nobody makes viruses/malware is because the ppl making the viruses are running Linux [or don't know how to right them for Linux cuz we evolve, adapt, survive] plus most [if not all] of the Linux community are smart enough to stop them cold and fix the problem right away unlike Microsoft who take forever and a day to even think about solving the problem and then its only half assed attempt at a fix.
P.S. I'm not trying to say your all hackers or anything like that i know that you guys are out to make the world a better p
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I am and I can recall the first underground how to I read many years ago , the very first line was something along the lines of " First , Get a real operating system like Slackware" lol
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P.S. I'm not trying to say your all hackers or anything like that i know that you guys are out to make the world a better placeQuote:
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now don't take this the wrong way but i think the reason nobody makes viruses/malware is because the ppl making the viruses are running Linux [or don't know how to right them for Linux cuz we evolve, adapt, survive] plus most [if not all] of the Linux community are smart enough to stop them cold and fix the problem right away unlike Microsoft who take forever and a day to even think about solving the problem and then its only half assed attempt at a fix.
I am and I can recall the first underground how to I read many years ago , the very first line was something along the lines of " First , Get a real operating system like Slackware" lol
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133#mdsmedia
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我可能有优点夸大，但是我感觉我就像那个“办公空间" 最底部的人，梦想着能让繁重的简单性工作有一点点改善，我不知道，我想我可能是有点不堪忍受了，真的.
If you can find out, that's be great. Not sure that it'd make much difference at work, but I've got some clients of my own and I'd love to be all Linux.
如果你能找到，就太好了，不确定它能给我的工作带来多少变化， 但是我有些客户，还有我自己喜欢全部用linux
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I might be being a little exaggerative , But I've been feeling like the guy at the end of "Office Space" dreaming about taking it a little easy with hard simple work , I don't know I think I may be getting a little burned out , honestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sx66gns View Post
I actually know a accountant who converted his whole office to Gnu/Linux , I'm not sure what he's using but I could find out , anyway I like the way you worded the end , lol no kidding....
我可能有优点夸大，但是我感觉我就像那个“办公空间" 最底部的人，梦想着能让繁重的简单性工作有一点点改善，我不知道，我想我可能是有点不堪忍受了，真的.
If you can find out, that's be great. Not sure that it'd make much difference at work, but I've got some clients of my own and I'd love to be all Linux.
如果你能找到，就太好了，不确定它能给我的工作带来多少变化， 但是我有些客户，还有我自己喜欢全部用linux
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134#mdsmedia
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Did you have to mention IE?
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hey i read that one too but i'm not in to viruses they aren't what i'm interested in i'm more repair [IE working with ppl and helping them solve there computer repair problems i'm really good at it even when I don't have the computer in question in hand]
Did you have to mention IE?