抱怨，准备入手vim或者emacs

[anewbie]

现在还有人每次编辑都直接启动 emacs 么？简直和自虐没区别。
开个 daemon，用 emacsclient 挂上去，无论你有多少插件，都不会比 vim 来得慢，除非故意在 after-make-frame-functions 之类的变量上堆无数垃圾。
至于扩展语言，emacs 照样可以用 python 进行扩展，这都是细枝末节的问题。
至于“优雅”与否，呃，这是相当容易被人扔砖头的话头，尤其看起来你对它谈不上任何了解。

Vim 和 Emacs 都只是工具，没有必要太泾渭分明，Emacs 里有 Viper，Vim 有 vimacs，在编辑不同类型的文件时能提供极大的方便，事实上，很多时候，我都分不清或者不在意自己用的到底是 Emacs 还是 Vi.

[adam8157]

我只说三点:

1, vi是posix的标准, 类unix都有vi或者vi的变种, 到哪里都习惯
2, vi符合unix的简洁, 组件, 精专的哲学
3, 没有3

[davyzhu]

我只说三点:

1, vi是posix的标准, 类unix都有vi或者vi的变种, 到哪里都习惯
2, vi符合unix的简洁, 组件, 精专的哲学
3, 没有3

Not intend to start another war, but as an Vim/Emacs user.
1. Emacs is the flagship editor in GNU project, which create by RMS at the same time when he write gcc/gdb/gnu-utils, etc, which means Emacs have better support to these stand-alone tools. As an programmer, I found Emacs a perfect trade-off between Vim(too simple) and Eclipse(too complex).
2. You can find almost everything(mode) in Emacs, but you cannot find everything in Vim(supposing a full-fledged email client in Vim?, Vim's script is too simple to make complex extensions like org-mode). Small is an advantage, but in my view, Emacs is not large compared with IDE like Eclipse. And speed is not an issue if people use machine in 10 years.
3. Emacs can be a posix standard if it want to be. But it didn't because it evolves with time and get better and better.
4. No 4.